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Post by robertfisher on Aug 16, 2010 19:46:52 GMT -5
i have to give credit to his ability to drive a race car. whether you like him or not , he can just plain out wheel a race car. I have tried to talk CRAIG MULLINS to come back ,but he says it wont happen. that was one driver who could give jamie and h.j. a run for the money every week. i think those were some of the best years of racing when you had CRAIG MULLINS,CHAD MARVEL,H.J. BUNTING,JAMIE MILLS, AND BOBBY WILKINS racing .i wish some of these retired drivers could come back.but the few that i talked all said the same thing.TOO EXPENSIVE. i was just wondering if charlie cathell could look into starting a big block crate class so it would be a more competitive ,cheaper class too be in. i think that is what is hurting the racing buisness. you have about thirty crate modifieds every week,and i have talked with some of these drivers and they said they would like to move up but they cannot afford a 30 to 40 thousand dollar motor. just something to think about,we are in tough economic times, i just think we could do more to keep the cost down so racing can keep growing . i love this sport,and hate to see it go away like so many other places have done recently. just something to consider.SOMETHING POSITIVE.
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Post by dustin on Aug 16, 2010 20:04:37 GMT -5
Give Jamie and H.J. a run for their money? I believe Brightbill did this year. Has over 170 point lead with 5 races to go. Jester also ran very well this year. Brad Trice is really getting strong. If not for his injury, he would probably have a win. I wish Charlie would make the modifieds run a 467 like every other track. And then maybe get a DIRT race or a ROC dirt race here.
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Post by schaefferoilguy on Aug 16, 2010 20:10:20 GMT -5
Both great ideas! Motors would last longer and be easier on the pocketbook!
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Post by schaefferoilguy on Aug 16, 2010 20:11:56 GMT -5
You guys forgot another wheel man-Ricky Elliott! Love him or hate him he can wheel a big block modified!
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Post by dirtfan65 on Aug 16, 2010 20:50:47 GMT -5
Jamie Mills is really something to watch. He will rise to the top everytime and boy do some of those bleacher creatures hate him. You are taking your life into your hands when you jump to your feet and cheer him on, but I tell you what, it is worth it!
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Post by greenwhitecheckard on Aug 17, 2010 6:56:14 GMT -5
Look for brightbill in victory lane a few more times this year. Something tells me he ain't done. But to come to dis with a car he is not used to and a crew he's not worked with in the past and dominate the points deserves much respect. They need to get rid of that paint job. I like it but since they changed it they have had monkeys on there back. Go brightbill.see ya in victory lane. As far as mills n bunting. Yea they can drive but they should. They have been racing at dis for a decade. Trice will be in victory lane before the seasons end. He gets better and better every week.and he races clean unlike some other top drivers.but hey rubbins racing. I know someone somewhere will have a negative comment for this post but opinions are like not a very nice persons, everybody's got one n they all stink.
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Post by Holla4DirtRacin on Aug 17, 2010 9:40:27 GMT -5
I agree "greenwhitecheckard" with what you said about Brightbill and yes Keith needs to go back to the other paint scheme the one they got now has not brought as much luck as the other one.
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Post by finishline4 on Aug 17, 2010 11:56:31 GMT -5
I LOVE watching jaime race, but man, like i said in another post, he's wrecker or checkered, but he's very exciting to watch and i love watching him.
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Post by bballantine on Aug 17, 2010 14:53:11 GMT -5
I am trying to figure something out here, how does a cubic inch limit make it easier on the pocketbook? Explain that to me. A cubic inch limit favors one team in racing, that's right the team with money. If big block racers are forced to build a 467 cubic inch engine, then the team who can afford to spend the most money on heads and an intake win. No questions asked, that is just plain and simple math. Now if a small budget team can build a 540 cubic inch motor they are not forced to spend 20,000 dollars on a set of 15 degree heads, the horsepower can be built on a simple formula of bigger is better. More cubic inches=more power. I wish there were no cubic inch limits for DIRT or any other organization, then racing wouldn't be about dollars but about who can put the power to the ground when the noise pedal is stepped on.
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Post by dustin on Aug 17, 2010 15:56:58 GMT -5
Cubic inch limit or not, money is always the name of the game. A team with money and wins with a 467 will win with a bigger motor. I'm just stating I wish Charlie would come in line with every other track, so then maybe he could get a DIRT or ROC tour race. I know why he doesn't, he spends time teching the crates, and with an unlimited c.i. rule he doesn't have to tech the Big Blocks. I heard somebody say this 1 time and loved it. Kenny Brightbill is a race car driver, those other guys are pedal pushers. Good Luck to Kenny and the entire Colbourne team the rest of the year.
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Post by bballantine on Aug 17, 2010 16:31:43 GMT -5
Charlie's rule package not only favors a lack of tech, it allows the smaller budget team to not take a knife to a gun fight every saturday night. I know for a fact that a team can build a 880 hp big block for under 20 grand. Fact! The reason that is possible......cubic inches. The other series and tracks need to realize this fact and open up the engine rules. Car counts would go up at most tracks because engine costs would go down.
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Post by badboy on Aug 17, 2010 16:44:44 GMT -5
You can have all the money in the world and buy the best motor and the best car. But if the driver don't know what 2 do with it then it sucks
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Post by dustin on Aug 17, 2010 20:49:27 GMT -5
I'm not disagreeing with you about the cubic inches. Basically modified racing suffers because every track has different engine and body rules. Ashame that all these tracks cant get together and have a set of rules so you can take your car to any track any night. Now where it gets expensive for our local guys is, they have an unlimited c.i. motor for here, but then they have to spend more money to buy a 467 to run elsewhere. Basically I wish all these modified tracks would get on the same page with each other. As far as badboy what you say, yes there are some with lots of money and no talent, but not alot of them. Most of the time the owner puts someone in the car who can drive.
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Post by ubugme19 on Aug 23, 2010 20:01:54 GMT -5
Speed costs money how fast are you willing to pay for? You don't think that if they opened up the cid rules and the budget teams started stroking motors out to 600+ cid that the money teams wouldnt start stroking theirs? Then put a $15G set of Brodix merlins on it, then flow bench and dyno it and all the rest of the crap we do to race engines? Run the 467's like DIRT and a bunch of other tracks run then some guys from NJ and PA would come down and race. It takes less than 5 minutes to pump a motor from start to finish. We do it every sat night. Open tire rule helps out a lot too.
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Post by kevin on Sept 5, 2010 11:52:41 GMT -5
All you guys that talk to the crate drivers should tell them to buy a 358 and run with the big blocks. There was a time when Charlie allowed it, and Im assuming he still does. Any crate racer looking to move up cant miss with the endless supply of used 358 engines and parts constantly available. A used 358 will run you in the neighborhood of $8,000...and extremely competitive any time the track is not especially heavy.
I have always thought a SBM class would resurrect modified racing in Delaware, and I cant understand why the Cathells have never given it a chance.
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Post by cratedriver on Sept 5, 2010 12:46:47 GMT -5
What ever happened to the old smallblock bonus that used to be paid at DIS. Seems to me it was a couple hundred bucks for the highest finishing SB. That would help the modified car count a bunch. NO 602's though, make it a sportsman or DIRT SB
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Post by bubba9llvsc on Sept 6, 2010 21:42:25 GMT -5
Yea the small block bonus days were pretty cool especially when a few small blocks were finishing top 10 and top 5 on occasion. Deffinately some younger talent out there, and they are the "next generation" of the Mullins, Marvel, ect.
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Post by kevin on Sept 7, 2010 13:30:24 GMT -5
Small blocks were sneaking into the top ten back when they had enough cars that they actually needed to qualify. Technology has come a long way and car count has gone down, so it wouldn't be beyond imagination to see a small block finish second or third on a night where Bright Bill or Mills missed the setup.
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