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Post by 25adams on May 21, 2007 12:55:03 GMT -5
The Jr-1 rookie finishing order and points for the last club race are wrong. Rookie parents were told that #24 Tony Woody was not eligible to run rookie because he had run it all last year plus he's old enough for Jr-2. They were going to allow him to run the feature cause he'd already run the heat but was not to receive any points or position regardless of where he finished. He has been scored as the 2nd place kart and received points for that position as well. We would appreciate it if someone would look into it.
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Post by all4dirt on May 21, 2007 14:27:17 GMT -5
It would also be nice to have this issue resolved before another race to avoid more questions, arguments and/or confusion. Thanks!
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peewee
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Post by peewee on May 22, 2007 7:01:55 GMT -5
The rookie class is just that, if you have raced in at least half the rookie races last season or if you go to other tracks and run jr.1 or jr. outlaw you are not considered a rookie any longer and will be moved out of the jr.1 rookie class at Delmar. I think the class was started for an easy adjustment from peewee to jr.1 without points being involved. Hopefully Delmarva Motorsports Park also has a rookie class for the simple reason that was stated above. I hope everybody respects this class enough to honor it, so if you race Jr.1 rookie at Delmar and run Jr.1 every where else then we do not consider you a rookie.
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Post by 25adams on May 22, 2007 12:49:25 GMT -5
Pee-Wee, My son Is 8 years old. Never raced a go-kart in his life until aug. 06 in the pee-wees so tell me why he should not be in the rookies. He is right where he belongs. He has never run jr-1 anywhere else. He runs rookie everywhere he goes. we don't go to D.M.P because they don't have a rookie class, same with mardela. If the class was started for easy adjustment with no points then why does the club keep track? fact is the club told tony woody at the end of the first race he was to move up so he skipped a week then came back and run it again. You guys dropped the ball. I know for a fact the tower was informed before the heat race about him but nothing was done until the feature. And he was still aloud to run. I looked up rookie in the dictionary it states," a first-year participant in a major professional sport" this is definitely not professional sport but he is a first year participant. And i can't wait to see you tell Chad H., Keven V., Renny H. and Rosco that because they ran D.M.P. wed. night they can't run rookie. I'd not want to be in your shoes. I'm going to come early this week. I'd like to meet with you and discuss this further. John Kelly
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Post by all4dirt on May 22, 2007 15:05:55 GMT -5
Just to clear things up before anything else negative gets started on here:
1. There are a lot of things that go on from registration to racing and although #24 signed up for the Rookie class and shouldn't have, no one was informed of a decision made on him racing in that class including him because he was not there the following week after the first race. The tower was not informed of anything until during the heat race and a decision was not made by the officials until close to feature time.
2. Chad H. and Rosco have not been to DMP so their kids have not raced there all that I know of. I can't say whether they've been any where else, but they were not there Wed night. I cannot say anything about Renny H. because I don't know if they were there or not, but if they were I don't see how he could've raced with the last 2 weeks getting rained out.
3. Kevin V. has been to DMP twice and the kart has not touched the track. There has not been races there since the 1st week because of rain-outs and Kevin V. was not there the first week.
4. Kevin V. has spoken to Buck from DMP today and is waiting to hear whether they are going to start a Rookie class there and will not go to race unless they do.
5. Are there rules posted for each class that would answer these questions about who is "eligible" to race a certain class? If so, where are they?
Thanks!
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Post by 25adams on May 22, 2007 18:12:13 GMT -5
Hi All4dirt, My only point was we all like to support other race tracks, Are they going to move us all up? I'm looking at the transponder sheets and rookie is for the most part a 1/2 to a full sec. off JR-1 each week. Our kids are where they need to be. In fact the top five were with in two tenths last club race. 13.92 to 14.09, that's pretty tight. Why would it matter what class someone runs elsewhere. Obviously they're all on the same level by the lap times. We like to go to Club Milton and run rookie. Should we be judged and not aloud to run Delmar rookie? We've not been to DMP yet, and Mardella runs the same days as Milton. It just doesn't seem right. But if they show us the rules that state that, then that's the rule. We were asked last club race to move up to JR-1 because we won two in a row. The first win the leader spun and the second win was under caution. Not really what i consider dominant wins. So why should he be forced to move up? Guess we'll have to wait on that rule book to see if it states two wins Maximum in rookie. Good luck racing. I think he's got a win coming soon!
P.S. Pee-wee, the 2006 pts. champ in rookie had 5 wins the 2005 champ had nine....Just food for thought. We're a long ways off that.
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Post by peewee on May 22, 2007 21:49:53 GMT -5
And i can't wait to see you tell Chad H., Keven V., Renny H. and Rosco that because they ran D.M.P. wed. night they can't run rookie. I'd not want to be in your shoes. I'm going to come early this week. I'd like to meet with you and discuss this further. John Kelly (MR. KELLY) please do not come early just to meet with me because I don't have time to talk. I have alot that goes on getting ready for the races. Lap times to me have nothing to do with when a child is ready to move up there is lot more to it than that. Of coarse this is my own opinion and I am only speaking for myself. So please do not come early to talk to me because it's not happening. Just have your people call my people.
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Post by kartdad0four on May 23, 2007 5:28:52 GMT -5
25adams,
not trying to step on any toes or make anyone mad.
my opinion on this issue is,sounds like your son has got a pretty good handle on what he is doing out on the race track,why not sign him up in jr1 and race,then you could race anywhere you want and never have another issue as far as eligibility.you could go to dmp.,the vdka,our local state races,etc.
the jr1 rookie class was designed as sort of an advanced peewee class for the kids to get used to a bigger motor and more speed,with the idea that when they were ready to move up they would.not stay in it too see how many wins they could get,but to learn and make the adjustment to a faster kart and then move up.
as far as talking to peewee,with all due respect to peewee,this is not a decision that he has to make it should be brought before the board of directors with a discussionon the matter.peewee is a very busy man before an event and does not need issues like this to deal with before the races.
we are a club and will try to make everyone happy. if you feel the need to discuss this come see mee or any of the board and i will be happy to discuss this and take it before the board and see what can happen.
mike savage,kartdad04
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Post by 25adams on May 23, 2007 6:42:04 GMT -5
Hi Mike, Pee-Wee had no problem meeting with me before the last race to tell me we should move up. Now he's not got the time? My boy has only had 20 laps green flag racing in 3 rookie races. Now he wants to throw him to the wolfs. His decision making is not good in traffic. Yeah he's good with a lead, they all are. He needs seat time with other kids in his learning curve. That's our opinion. And we are his parents. Would you send your son or daughter up if you knew he or she was not ready? or send them out to tear up other peoples equipment? or get hurt? I'd like a board member to call me at 302-542-4423. I'd like to know the BOARDS official stand on this issue. I'd like to resolve this before friday. Were not going to DMP tonight to satisfy pee-wee and I'm going to let Walt B. know we're sorry we can't run there under "pee-wees" rules. Thanks for your time Mike John Kelly
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Post by all4dirt on May 23, 2007 9:42:47 GMT -5
Who can we call about all of these issues? What board member knows about all of this and actually has the rules?
We have already paid to race at DMP because they had 2 rain-outs and we didn't know they didn't have the Rookie class and then didn't know we couldn't run other tracks. Unfortunately, we have not heard from them whether or not they're going to have the Rookie class so now with all of this being said my son cannot race there. He is not ready to move up to Junior 1, but with having the limited lap time he's been getting at Delmar and the lower kart-count at DMP, we figured we'd let him try to at least run the practice laps and see how we all felt about it.
We don't want to jeopardize him not being able to run the Rookie class right now so we will wait until we talk to someone about all of this.
So could someone tell me where to find all of the rules on each class or who to call and what number so we can possibly find out everything about this class before tonight or at least before Friday?
I also want to know if that is true that once you win a few times you should move up? In most everything else, a rookie is considered a rookie the whole season or year. We're just really confused by all of this and would like some answers. Maybe we did get into the wrong class, but it seems for the most part the kids are running close together and the parents are on the same page.
Maybe there needs to be a separate meeting just for this class???
Thanks.
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Post by kartdad0four on May 23, 2007 11:33:44 GMT -5
on the issue of moving up when ready,the rookie class was seperated from the jr1's due to the class getting to large and trying to give true beginners the opportunity to get track time without being in the way of the more experienced kids and in the this class the theory being the fewer karts out on the track,the fewer cautions.
when we moved from peewee to jr1 thats all there was. 1 jr1 class.you signed up,told your kid "good luck get out of there way when they catch you" and hoped for the best.there was no other option.did we get our buts kicked?yes but in time he and i learned what it took to be competitve.
as far as racing the jr1 class at dmp,i will make a few phone calls and ask other board members thier opionion on this. as i recall that part of the rule was addressed at kids in jr1 rookie traveling to the vdka or nationals and then coming back to race in our jr1 rookie class,and those that would race the state series locally and then on friday nite race the rookie class which at that point you are not a true "rookie"in the way the word was intended to be interpreted.hope that makes sense
mike savage kd04
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