SEPT. 22ND SUPER LT FEATURE

[ltmodfreak]

Ok I was just curious to see what everyone thought of Friday's race. We all know there was some controversy after the feature. Byram coming up 10lbs. light. M.Pettyjohn gets the win.

It just seems strange in my book that Byram comes up 10lbs light after passing Pettyjohn then he gets DQ'ed at the scales. How fitting that the # 49 Super late of Pettyjohn sponsered by M.Joseph Cont. for the night gets the win.

Just seems pretty fishy to me.

[truth]

If you watched the race after the checkered Byrum went off track in 1 and 2 to pick up mud. He also went down before entering pit road in 3 and 4 to try and get mud, he must have know he was cutting it close. It was a shame for Byrum he drove a great race, but I think if PJ hadn't lost power steering it was over anyway. I think we can always look at the what ifs and conspiracy theory, but I felt PJ dominated most of the race and I think the decals where just a tribute to Melvin and it wasn't a major sponsership deal. I think thats like saying because Mills Bros sponsers track, if Jamie wins it is a set up. I was at Eldora last year and Babb lost the World 100 (the biggest LM race of the year) because he was 10 pounds light, so rules are rules. I heard 21 was also light and another car also so you have to account for 49 laps and lots of cautions.

[truth]

All scales must be certified by DE Dept of AG when cash prizes are awarded, so the scales are certified and he was weighted several times.

[mamakin764]

RUMOR IS GAS CAP FELL OFF, STILL LOOKED AWESOME !

[lm4loyalfan]

To set the record straight, Mark did loose the gas cap. He also stated that a tire was hanging over the side of scales, but so be it. I would like to know if Mark Pettyjohn losing his power steering is that what also happen to #76 as he was right on his tail, seems strange to me. Rules are rules as stated, but Mark Byrum drove an awesome race and 10lbs. does not make that much difference in preformance. Great job Mark.

[truth]

So should Byram get the win because he was 10 lbs light? Should we review each case and decide who wins are do we go by the rules? Maybe after Byram wins (and makes weight) we should strip him of the win because PJ lost his power steering. I think PJ had it won, lost power steering, then Byram had it won and came up light. I mean maybe Jarvis would have won if he didn't have trouble or Elliott if he was there, that is the way it goes in racing. I am sure 10 lbs does make a difference or there would be no rules on weight. I also am sure if someone left the gas cap off that was a team mistake and a costly one and if the tires were not on the scales the car was re weighted several times. I wonder if PJ was light and Lingo won (in ltmodfreaks case) or Whaley (in lm4loyalfans case) if they would be questioning the scales? It sounds like sour grapes, but Byram drove a great race and I congratulate him for that I just wish everyone could let PJ enjoy his moment in the spotlight. I also think Byram deserves a good ride and I have alot of respect for his ability. I heard Lou say in victory lane that there was going to be some questioning of the decision, but the rules are the rules.

[dirttrackmom]

I will agree that rules are rules. But it seems awful funny that the announcer stated that Mark Byram had not got to the scales yet while they were waiting for him on the track all of a sudden M. Pettyjohn comes out. But anyway everyone will see their own side to the story. I overheard that Pettyjohn and his "crew" made their little snickers and remarks going by Mark Byram's pit and I think that is pretty sad for him to have to act like a jerk when he was "given" the win he sure did not "earn" it.

[fatfrank]

I was standing there when they came off the track and on to the scales. Mark was light. They pushed his car off the scales and weighed it a second time . He was still light. They made every effort to get his car to make weight. Plain and simple. He was light. Kenny P was close. If I rember, he was over by one or two pounds. Rules are rules.

[truth]

I saw both PJ and Byram talking after the race, they both seemed to be good sports about everything. I know PJ and him talking trash to another driver is a ridiculous statement. It is sad because your not gonna find a better young man then PJ. I have watched in the pits lately and it appears to me all the drivers seem to get along great it is the fans who seem to have the trouble being adults. I don't see how you can say he was handed the win, because he was pretty strong the whole race. I guess if Byram won then I should be on here crying that he was handed the race because PJ power steering went out. Byram drove a great race and I am not gonna get on here and cry after the fact, a mechanical failure is part of racing and so is being light.

[dirtfan10]

looked to me like Marks tires went away late in the race.Byrum drove smart race ,and waited til the end to push his car.Great run ,bad result ,but thats racing.

[dj1616]

Mark Pettyjohn was not "given" the win. He earned the win. And I am one of those people that were standing at the scales waiting to go out to Victory Lane for Mark Byram. I was also at Byram/Whaleys pit right after the race and nobody from Pettyjohn's crew came over snickering, and I know almost everybody on his "crew" and I would bet money that they didn't come over snickering, especially since I was around most of the night and didn't see that happening. I was disappointed that Byram came up light as was Byram (he had a bad night) and Whaley (who has had a lot of bad luck lately) but I thought if anybody deserved the win after Byram it was Mark Pettyjohn, he did a great job getting around cars especially the lap cars, even Byram had trouble getting around cars more than Mark P. did thats what took him so long to get up front. Once again people are trying to get sh*t going between drivers that doesn't need to be going, if one of these drivers get this crap in their head and takes it out on the track somebody could really get hurt. Good thing we have a bunch of good guys out there racing. Congratulations Mark Pettyjohn and Good Luck Mark Byram!

[all4dirt]

I just want to say that with the look on Byram's face and the crew's faces, I don't think that they knew they were light. Especially with the main reasoning being that the fuel cap came off and that's how they figured they lost fuel/weight. Going down in the clay can also be to cool off tires can't it? I mean I see drivers doing that in every race even during races so I don't see how that would mean that he knew that he was light so he purposely picked up clay for that reason. I was standing by the scale the whole time and I can definitely say that no one had a clue that he was going to be light.

Also, DJ1616 is correct in saying that Pettyjohn didn't come down to their pit and make snickering remarks to them and Byram and Pettyjohn are fine with each other all because neither one did anything to each other. They raced clean and being light is just something unfortunate that happened for Byram.

The crew did try to tell them that he was not on the scales right, but they knew that either way he probably would've been light so it's all done and over with now. And Byram was weighed twice, but they didn't look to see what the crew was talking about before sending him on his way.

I did think it was a little funny that Byram was light and then the "49" Melvin Joseph car wins, but it really has nothing to do with anything...it was just one of those things I'm sure.

All I know is both Mark's drove a hell of a race, raced clean, and both won in their own way! Congrats to both! I'm just glad to see that the Whaley car had some good luck!

[truth]

Just one thought.... why would you cool tires after the race?

[dirttrackmom]

I was not saying it was fact that M. PJ said that, What I said was that it was overheard after the races were over. I was just wondering if anyone else heard the same thing or if it was just usual BS that gets started. I will agree that they both ran a great race but in the end it came down to the checkered flag and nothing more. So if my statement about hearing the snickering was wrong I apologize I just wanted to find out what was going on and why he would do something like that if he did. Even though I don't like the outcome of Friday nights race I don't believe the rules should be changed for any driver"just because" I understand the ruling but I agree that something just did not seem right with it.

[dj1616]

I have a real controversy from that night!!!! Why in the world was WaWa closed at 12:15 on a Friday night?? They had a sign on the door posted that they would be closed for an hour, and the parking lot was full of people, quite a few from the track. Now that's a controversy, especially when I wanted a sub lol. Sorry just wanted to lighten up the convo a lil bit.

[all4dirt]

Okay good point! I don't know why I said that for after the race...I was just trying to get the point accross that they did not have any idea they were going to be light.

[eddie55lcrew]

WAWA was closed becuase of a so called riot . Said about 200 ppl were up there and there was fighting in the parking lot so they locked the doors..

[truth]

From what I heard the Wawa was closed because the police were investigating a report that Mark PJ had disposed of Byram's gas cap in a dumpster in the parking lot. I also overheard one officer saying he had been spotted removing weights from Byrams car and had shoved several old ladies down on his way to the Wawa. He also reportedly stole several pieces of candy from children wearing Byram tee shirts. This guy has to be stopped!

[dj1616]

OMG Truth has a sense of humor, stop the press lol! Well it is official then I no longer like Mark Pettyjohn since he screwed up me getting a sub! And are we sure they weren't rioting after they closed the doors bc they were probably drunk, hungry, and upset like me (well minus the drunk part this time lol).

[tomdawg]

What I heard happened was that the manager had to close the store for a while. There was a line of 8 or 9 people, all getting those super long 2 foot subs. When the subs were all done, the first one he tried to sell weighed 10 ounces less than the second one, but the manager tried to sell it anyway. Needless to say, there was a lot of confusion, so they had to close the store for a bit to figure it out. (LOL)

[RedBud69]

See, that's why go to Hardee's or the truck stop in Laurel. Not as confusing with all the people there when they show up. They're use to it I guess. I've been to that WaWa too you are talking about. Or I go to the beer cave or WaWa just outside of Delmar toward Salisbury. Never been closed with all the ppl there. Did they find the gas cap?

[lm4loyalfan]

I love they last few messages. U can bet ur sweet A$$ I will not go to Wawa with my #4 Tee Shirt and Earrings on. Thanks for making this discussion lite. I think the only part for me was disappoint for Rick since he has have such bad luck this year. Crashed at Wayne Cty one week, lost a battery another week and now has a broken finger and can't drive hisself. He is okay with the disqualifing since he knows rules are rules. I really don't know if the ever found the gas cap. Also on that nite I still think Mark Byrum drove a hellva race and #4 was the best car on the track.

[sm28cratelate32mom]

Gotta agree with lm4loyalfan...BUT I heard that they closed WaWa because they saw dj1616 coming and they knew she really wanted a sub...lol

[dj1616]

Aww sm23cratelate32mom, you missed me you really missed me lol. Thats probably right bc you know how much food I can put down lol.

[kbr3970]

I just wonder if we would have ever had this convo if Mark PJ didnt have the 49 on his car...

[cbc28432]

Just to set the record straight the fuel cap was not put on right and the first couple laps we saw something coming out of the back of the car (which was fuel). Rick had it figured that we should have been 10 to 15 lbs heavy and he told Mark to find mud just in case. Which is what every other does too. The car was light and that's the rules so congratulations to Mark P on the win!

[all4dirt]

you're right...there's controversy because he had the 49 on his car, but i'm sure there'd still be talk no matter what!

can't please everyone and someone's always gotta spread some kind of rumor!