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Post by finishline4 on Nov 11, 2010 10:26:00 GMT -5
There are a lot of fans that say things need to be improved not just for DIS, but for every track. I think DIS had a great year this year with competative fields a good racing, but i would like to know what other people may either like about DIS, or what they think could be improved upon.
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Post by robertfisher on Nov 11, 2010 19:03:07 GMT -5
i think they should run a crate big block and crate super late model to keep cost down. i know this economy has got to be taking its toll on race teams. then maybe some of the crate drivers could afford to run super or big block classes.but i know this would only work if other tracks did the same because some drivers would want to race other tracks.just a thought.
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Post by 1969racing on Nov 11, 2010 22:02:56 GMT -5
I think that overall this season was one of the most competitive ever at DIS. One of the biggest complaints that we hear most is low payouts. I believe that this is caused by trying to run too many classes of cars each night. Namely 2 so called premiere classes, ie; Big Blocks and Super Lates. Split those 2 classes and run them every other week. Drop the mod Lites. Make heat races count, ie; where you finish in the heat determines where you start in the feature in ALL classes. Run the 2 crate class features to 20 laps each and let the Big Blocks and the Super Late Models run 30 lap features. The exception would be the weekends that NASCAR is at Dover. Those nights you could run both Big Blocks and Super Late Models and throw in the URC. Personally, I just go see the Big Blocks and usually leave after they have run whenever that happens to be. I like the Late Models but just not my favorite class. Grew up on Big Blocks and that's just me.
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Post by finishline4 on Nov 12, 2010 8:02:30 GMT -5
I think they need to drop some classes to, but i think you should still keep both premier classes there. The problem is, if you drop a class, what happens to the drivers in that class? It would really be a rip off to them.
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Post by RedBud69 on Nov 25, 2010 13:32:39 GMT -5
I love having every & ALL the classes and especially both premiere classes. We are so lucky to have these classes for drivers to learn and compete.
Something I never have understood, is why do people pay to come watch racing and leave after the LM or BB features? I don't understand that? I love both, I can't say which I like best, so we need both.
When I go, I am going to watch all the racing! For you guys that don't stay to watch the other classes, you miss some pretty great racing. If you don't stay to watch you have no idea what you might have missed.
You can't start to appreciate what they are giving us if you leave and don't even give them a chance? Also, your missing out on these 14-18 yr olds who will most likely switch to LM or BB later. That is fun and exciting to see them and they deserve to be given credit for their accomplishment, they're the future.
If you are missing these other classes, it is just a shame. When they do step up, you can't say "I've been watching this kid since he was racing go-karts, or Mod Lite,....? You'll be "who is that? Oh I've never watched him race?" Instead you would say "he's been driving since when, what did he race before he was driving LM or BB...?"
Either way I would NOT want to alternate the BB or LM class every other week! And if I go to a race I WANT TO SEE THEM ALL!!
Just my thoughts!
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Post by finishline4 on Nov 28, 2010 16:28:45 GMT -5
agree with you a lot
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Post by WrongWayWillie#13 on Nov 30, 2010 9:41:02 GMT -5
I'd like to see an entry level class, enduro , bomber, or something not everyone has 8-10 k to buy a mod lite, or used crete car
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Post by finishline4 on Dec 5, 2010 17:26:27 GMT -5
They DO need to add a lower cost class.
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Post by finishline4 on Jan 7, 2011 18:47:53 GMT -5
I agree
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Post by 1969racing on Jan 17, 2011 14:37:41 GMT -5
defan, just my opinion on the payout situation, that's all. And no one is right or wrong here just expressing differences of opinion here. I still just think that things were more efficient when there were fewer classes. I and several others that I know just want to go to the races, watch the races and go home. Don't want to spend the night there. And the crowds were way better years ago when it was this way and they did not take 50 to 70 minutes to work the track at "intermission". No right or wrong claimed here just the way some like it. Still I am very glad that we have a local dirt track to attend each week during the summer and I go every chance I get. But, there are nights that I do not go due to the length of the show and watching classes of cars that I don't particulary care for. Just my opinion. Isn't that what this thread asked for: "What would you like to see."
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Post by bballantine on Jan 17, 2011 17:06:18 GMT -5
Personally I would like to see everyone who complains about Charlie working the track have to pay the tire bill on a car or pay for the damage to a car that gets torn up because of the holes. I'm just saying.
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Post by cratedriver on Jan 17, 2011 17:20:20 GMT -5
OK.... gona stir up a s... storm here but like the title said, "This is what I'd like to see". Drop the Mod Lites to once a month. They've got Middleford to run the small cars on. When they do run DIS, set them as the first feature. They always put on a GREAT show when the are first and the later in the line-up they are the worse the race gets. The tracks just too fast and rough for them. Use the extra time the other weeks and run heats for the crate classes. IF not then let the modlites run first every week. It would be alot easier on their equipment and just enough to run the track in after intermission. JMO
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Post by WrongWayWillie#13 on Jan 18, 2011 10:44:01 GMT -5
personelly I like the heat races over the timed laps for qualifing
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Post by finishline4 on Jan 18, 2011 20:45:13 GMT -5
Now, I am a fan and do not actually race in any class. But his is what I see as a fan. I do think there needs to be fewer classes. There should probably be, in my opinion, four to five classes a week. I like the idea of running mod lites once a month like the Vintage classes. Now, I hear a lot of drivers thank Charlie for it, but as a fan, I CAN'T STAND the hour and a half intermission. I know that's the reason me and my family don't go every week, and I'm sure that turns off a lot of other fans as well. I've heard it from many people.
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Post by robertfisher on Jan 20, 2011 15:55:13 GMT -5
i agree ,it would be nice to be home at a decent hour.i think they should groom the track depending on track conditions.some nights the track is in great shape after qualifying,if it is leave it alone,if it is rough then groom it.and i agree there is some people who would like to stay till the sun comes up.but im not one of them.some people have to work on sunday.
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Post by finishline4 on Jan 20, 2011 19:58:12 GMT -5
I agree with you. Again, I bring up camp barnes. They just finished the Little Lincoln race and the track was in great condition. It was as smooth as I have seen it in a long time. Then they plowed it up again and it wasn't until midway through the SLM race that it was decent again.
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Post by robertfisher on Jan 21, 2011 18:03:11 GMT -5
what does grooming the track have to do with cutting out a class of racing?and who said i leave early? im usually there till the end then go to the pits. i just said it would be nice to get out earlier once in a while.
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Post by oldschool on Jan 26, 2011 17:21:21 GMT -5
Definitely need a low buck, entry level class such as Street Stocks, Bombers, Chargers, whatever you want to call them. More cars equal more fans. Nothing personal Modlite guys but if a class needs to be cut I would say them. Problem as I see it is Modlites costs as much as the Crate classes (or Little Lincolns) so what you have right now is 3 supposedly starter classes. Although any class that costs $10,000 to run is not what kind of bottom line starter class I am talking about. Time and money are keeping me from getting back into racing as it isa lot of other guys I know. Come up with a class that can be run weekly for low bucks and you will field a bunch of cars. These guys that can afford $10,000 to run will still have plenty of options. The $10,000 entry level figure is a major deterrent to many who would love to race.
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Post by bubba9llvsc on Jan 26, 2011 22:41:02 GMT -5
I agree, 10 grand is not a starter class. I think what used to be starter classes evolve such as the old street stocks (camos,monte carlos ect.) and nothing comes in to replace them, the Little Lincolns 15 yrs ago was a starter class but it "evolved" as the street stocks did and mod-lites. What about the slide class with a cage, dirt tires, similar to the old thunder cars. Theres enough of them around to get a good field of cars and run them bi-weekly to keep costs down as well. In our area we need "starter classes" to keep the younger racers in our sport and to be the next generation. just my .02 from a racers perspective.
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Post by 1969racing on Jan 27, 2011 9:36:15 GMT -5
I have to agree that an affordable starter class is needed but, where would you get the cars? Most everything made in the past 15 years is either foreign made or mostly plastic or both! Just sayin.
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Post by cratedriver on Jan 27, 2011 15:12:15 GMT -5
Your starter class is at Middleford (chargers). Someone wants to get started without going overboard, this is a perfect division. Run one of those a couple years and then move into a crate car at DIS. Otherwise, build a slide car if you can find one. They're harder to find than people think.
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Post by WrongWayWillie#13 on Jan 28, 2011 8:30:00 GMT -5
I know atleast 5 mid 80 's montes around , plus a t-bird and impalas, they are still out there but you got look.
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Post by tubbs60 on Feb 1, 2011 11:02:10 GMT -5
As far as an entry level class for delmar... Supposedly charlie will be running the chargers and the trucks at DIS this year. Just 3 events each though. Its a start... But its still a good class to get into. And if someone did wanna build either a car or truck to race at delmar they could aslo go to middleford as well. So its pretty convenient for the drivers as well as inexpensive. You can build a car or truck for under 1500
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Post by cratedriver on Feb 2, 2011 5:13:50 GMT -5
Nothing on the DIS schedule.
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Post by tubbs60 on Feb 2, 2011 11:19:05 GMT -5
Yeah i saw that. I heard it from Greg Mitchell. He's in charge of the truck class. He said he talked to Charlie and he said there were six events left to schedule so hes running them 3 and the chargers 3. And all the trucks and cars are supposed to be there for test and tune to get inspected
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