State Series

[peewee]

Just a question for the karter's that don't race or like the the state series. What changes would make you more interested so u would want to compete in that series? Last year a few people told me that by just changing the points system could help. To 1 point difference per position would make it a lot closer and with no throw outs, then they guy's further back are still in the hunt.

[peewee]

Guess not much interest in state series from the friday night racer's.

[haybail]

Why do you think that peewee. Its not that there isnt any intrest. Its the fact that your not a board member nor can you make club decisions. So if someone wanted to discuss a state series and get an idea as to the direction of the kart club they would more than likely call the club president. Besides, isnt that what a club meeting is for. Not a meaage board. Do what you do best, and worry about the track itself

[peewee]

haybail, your a RIOT. You almost had me thinking you were really interested in the club. I've been posting on the message board not a meaage board, I don't believe in that hocus pocus stuff!

[mod98]

How about state races 3 at delmar and 3 at mardela, what everybodys thoughts?

[showtime]

That sounds good. Id run it.

[godspeed]

Now someone has come up with a great idea. Either 6 or 8 races could be done, but they would have to work together. Be nice if Bloxom or another could handle it as well.

[kd04]

that is an interesting idea to split the series between 2 tracks....id suggest letting the "new mardela" get a season in to work out any kinks that may come up before that happens.
there are alot of details that would need to be worked out before it could become a reality......awards,profit/loss sharing,staffing,etc.
i was on the board when we tried to run a series at 2 diff. tracks.....didnt really work out to be all that was wanted
this is not a dig at either track for i do wish both tracks much success
kd4

[peewee]

Keep your the thoughts/suggestions coming.

[peewee]

Not only will the club members who attend next Wednesday nights meeting be voting on new board members but also the Junior classes,state, money, pro, or no series,any other items that need to be. So keep thinking about it

[jhracing25]

Here is my idea make the race schedule and let's go racing.

[peewee]

I think most of schedule is already made it's on their website.

[jhracing25]

Half of the season is made.

[peewee]

Make sure your at the club meeting so u can help decide on what kind of series or how many different series the club will race.

[jhracing25]

PeeWee I don't care what they run if they decide to run for Jackets and trophies I will be there to race if they decide to run a money series I will be there and if you tell me when the work days are my dad and I may even come down and help, I have better things to do on a Wednesday night like teach my Patch The Pirate Class with my wife at our Church.

[peewee]

Not sure when their work days are but nice to hear you and your dad might come down to help out.

[peewee]

Karter's updates will be coming soon about track work day's, full race schedule, etc. Keep looking on the clubs website for the updates. Thanks goes out to the new/old board member's, competition committee and new President.

[kd04]

just thought i would post some facts that i have researched in a "state series" vs. "club series" statements i have heard about entries and the fall off of such at the end of each racing season. btw,these numbers are straight from the mylaps website,taken from the #of qualifiers in each class
1st club event april 20 100 entries sept 14 67 entries
1st state race may 19 104 entries sept 22 62 entries
if i knew the answer to increase entries at late season events my phone would be ringing off the hook from race promoters from all over the country
why do i think entries fall off? regardless of what series...
1 not in the points or no chance of moving up
2 money..racing budgets have been expanded
3 school/sports unrelated to racing activities.
4 a long season and all but the truly diehards lose interest
again just a few of my personal thoughts,but too totally take a series that has been a part of this club and try to remake it into something else at this time i think is not a wise direction to be going this late in the off season
i would also like to respond to the statement that "the guy that wins the state series gets more awarded to him at the end of the year for a 6 race series than the guy that races the club series,which this yr was 14 events,in years past its been around 20 events.....
its harder to win a 6 race series ,have to be on your game at every event ,less mulligans
if people were to come from surrounding areas to race,its not going to be on a friday nite its going to be a state race,how many local racers travel to another track for a club race?....only travel to big events
my thinking would be ,,,if i wanted to win a championship,,,why not try the 6 race series,i can go better prepared to 6 races throughout the season than i can a long 20 race season.
whatever direction the club decides to go it needs to made public asap,,,,its getting late in the off season
but to kill a known formula that has worked for so long in the history of the club for the loss of $200 when at the end of the year the club has $20,000 in the bank seems a tad bit ridiculous.
ive said it many times,as a club,if at the beginning of the year we were succesful enough the previous year to open the gates for a new season it was a success
ok,off my soapbox,the bacon is done
kd04

[godspeed]

kd04,
You are a scholar & a poet. This displays a love for the sport and a lot of serious thought. I enjoyed reading this and believe anyone else will as well. It is an honor to know you sir. Hope you guys have a very good year. God Bless.

Rick Morris
P.S. A couple sunny side up eggs with my bacon, please.

[peewee]

kd04, Thanks for your post.Although we may not always agree on everything, We do agree on the fact that if we have the money in the bank at the beginning of the year to open the gates for a new season then last year was a success. I get so wraped up into my own frustration of why we always start losing karter's towards the middle of season for state series and wondering what can be done to help fix it. I never even looked to see that the number's also have always dropped off for the club series as well. As this has been shared with me so many times in my life "IF IT AIN'T BROKE DON'T FIX IT". Maybe it would be best this year to stay with no changes & take the time to talk to all the karters from both series through the season and see where that leads us. Fact is some members like racing on Friday night's while other club members like racing when they can on Friday night's but are able to run for point's on the state series so really the clubs been helping the racer's who like to race just some of them are unable to commit to the longer series.

[peewee]

I think that most of that money will be used for banquet expense's for both series from last season's

[jlm5]

3 Race Series, Less Classes /Slow the Pace of the Event Down In order to really have time to make changes... i mean we are americans no Russians...

3 Races Spring,SUmmer, Fall..... broadcast them online and pay minimum of 1000 each class, Broadcast online, Rename it a general karting series name instead of Delaware State Series

Have a Fourth and final Mega Race in which the purses are worth more but your final points finish for the previous three "in part" determine your start for the Mega Race.... Say if you finish 1 and 2 in the season points you will start 3 and 4 for the final Mega race (that way you still leave the opportunity for the "ringers" to travel in for the last race without being penalized.... and you could also extend it by having the 3 and 4 place finishers in season points start 7 and 8 in the mega race leaving starting spots 5 and 6 open for "ringers" also... and so on...

3 races also allow people to save up to allow even the average racer a chance at being able to afford the proper tire arsenal for each event and not putting him or her at a disadvantage for not wanting/being able to spend the $$ we all know it takes to be competitive in this sports.

I'm sure someone will come on here and tell me all the reasons i'm wrong..... but I think this is what I would do to start a karting series in today's age of racing..... Just because it has always been a six race series doesn't mean it needs to continue to be.....

-Jamie Lewis
"Think OUTside the box.... You Squares!"

[icon39]

I think we should have a 3 race series to help more racers same money to race them. But jamie Lewis if you finish 1 or second in the series you should start first or second in the mega race or run heat races to see where you start because telling the people that finshed first and second in the series that they have to be put back a few spots because they were good in the series thats just dumb because why should they have to give up spots because they did there homework and did better than the others. As most people would look at it it would cost people more in that mega race because you would have to start in the back and make your way thru the squirles and a very good chance of not making it the whole race.


just my oppinion

[jlm5]

To "promote" the event you would need to have some prestige along with a bonus for winning the pole of the Mega race... Knowing you can travel 6 or 7 hours without the chance of even qualifying on the front row would discourage more people I think...... Everyone has a chance to qualify for the "mega" race.... (the only squirrels in front of you would be "squirrels" that out qualifying you... thus making you the squirrel". The mega race wouldn't cost any more than the other races.

[icon39]

Say if you finish 1 and 2 in the season points you will start 3 and 4 for the final Mega race

thats what you said so how would qualifying even work if we would be getting set back a few spots for being 1 and 2 for the series points so what you are saying is that you want to put the people that did good in the back and make them have to work for it and have to work around all the people that you would be bumping up to give them a chance.. maybe at the mega race lets just draw from a hat to make it easier because there would be no reason for us to qualify if you would move the people that did good all season back a few spots...... and the squirrels are the ones that try to win it on the first lap of the race and drive over there heads and i know im not a squirrel alot of people will tell you that because i have made my self known as a good driver

[jlm5]

Time trials..... If you ran the series and finished near the top you would take either your fast time or your "points provision"....whichever one benefits the racer the most.

Squirrel comment was a general comment... not directed at you personally..... I have no idea who you are and i'm sure you are every bit as good as you say you is..... =)

[icon39]

wouldnt say im a great driver but alot of people think im good. my name is Allen Larson

[baw]

jlm5 is out of red bud retirement. been a while Jamie . Are u coming to a track near by anytime soon?

[jlm5]

I'm not sure anyone is looking for a washed up tire guy these days. You might see me running the scales or something..

[kd04]

why not just wait till the "mega" race and try to q-fy your way in with the "ringers"?....be the most cost saving way to go. only need tires for 1 race.......
welcome back "washed up".....I see a new screen/busines name in the works
kd04